Thom & Allen Share Insights from ICSAA: Emotional Sobriety in Focus
If you examine every disturbance you have, you're going to find at the root of it that you have an unhealthy dependence, that you want that situation to go a certain way, because your sense of well-being depends on it.
Picture this: two seasoned psychotherapists, Thom Rutledge and Dr. Allen Berger, sharing their personal journeys and professional insights at the International Conference of Secular AA (ICSAA). In this episode, they open up about their early struggles—Allen's time in the Marines and his battle with alcohol and drugs, and Thom's experiences working at an addiction treatment center while dealing with his own drinking issues.
Both men eventually found their way to recovery and now dedicate their lives to helping others do the same. At the heart of their discussion is a deep dive into a letter from Bill Wilson, co-founder of Alcoholics Anonymous. They use this letter as a lens to explore the concept of emotional sobriety—a state of freedom from unhealthy dependencies.
Wilson believed that practicing the 12 Steps daily could lead to this kind of emotional liberation, where we unhook from our dependencies and grow into our true selves. Thom and Allen don't just talk theory; they share practical insights and personal anecdotes that make the idea of emotional sobriety relatable and attainable. They discuss how self-esteem, authenticity, and overcoming discouragement are crucial elements in this journey.
Their stories are not just about struggle but also about the grace and growth that come from facing life's challenges head-on. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in going beyond physical sobriety to achieve emotional well-being. Whether you're in recovery, supporting someone who is, or simply looking for ways to live a more balanced life, Thom and Allen offer a treasure trove of wisdom and encouragement.
Tune in to hear how you can transform your relationship with yourself and others through the practice of emotional sobriety.