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#632 "Good" vs "Bad" Perfectionism - Katherine Morgan Schafler
#632 "Good" vs "Bad" Perfectionism - Katherine Morgan Schafler
#632 "Good" vs "Bad" Perfectionism - Katherine Morgan Schafler
Friday 24th February 2023
Katherine Morgan Schafler explores the dual nature of perfectionism on 'Mental Illness Happy Hour', offering insights on managing it for personal growth.
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Get the buttons here!Taming Perfectionism: Katherine Morgan Schafler's Guide to Balance and Growth
I think the world is filled with people like that, but some of them condense in certain cities, and LA is one of them.
Ever wondered if your drive for perfection is helping or hindering you? In this episode of 'Mental Illness Happy Hour', therapist and author Katherine Morgan Schafler sits down with host Paul Gilmartin to unpack the complex world of perfectionism. Katherine, known for her insightful book 'The Perfectionist’s Guide to Losing Control', dives deep into the different faces of perfectionism, from the healthy to the harmful.
She challenges the common belief that perfectionism should be eradicated, suggesting instead that it can be a force for good if managed correctly. Katherine identifies five distinct types of perfectionists and explains how understanding which type you are can help you harness your perfectionist tendencies in a positive way. She also touches on the concept of living a eudaimonic life—one that prioritizes personal growth and meaning over mere pleasure.
Throughout the conversation, Katherine emphasizes the power of presence and connection, highlighting how feeling understood and accepted can significantly reduce stress. The episode doesn't shy away from the darker side of perfectionism either, addressing feelings of shame and guilt, and the importance of vulnerability in overcoming these emotions. Whether you see yourself as a perfectionist or know someone who is, this episode offers valuable insights and practical advice for turning perfectionism into a tool for personal development.