Ep176 – Why Sheri and Matt Are Not Psychologists or TherapistsEp176 – Why Sheri and Matt Are Not Psychologists or Therapists
Untoxicated Podcast
The answer to this episode title has morphed over the years from: they couldn't imagine anyone would want to listen to what they have to say, to: "imposter syndrome," to: groups are dynamic, to: the pressure from expectations for answers sounds sucky.
49:54•30 Jan 2023
Why Sheri and Matt Chose Real Talk Over Therapy Titles
“We want you to learn from our mistakes... when people do participate in our groups, they are both the student and the teacher.”
Ever wondered why Sheri and Matt Salis, the voices behind the Untoxicated Podcast, aren't psychologists or therapists? In this episode, they tackle that very question head-on. The couple dives into their personal journey with alcoholism and recovery, sharing how their roles as 'students and teachers' have evolved over time. They open up about battling imposter syndrome and the pressures that come with expectations for answers.
Rather than sticking to traditional therapy models, they emphasize the power of group dynamics and mutual support in the recovery process. Sheri and Matt's candid discussion sheds light on the importance of vulnerability and learning from mistakes. They argue that everyone in a recovery journey can be both a learner and a guide. By sharing real-life stories and practical advice, they offer a refreshing perspective on sobriety that's grounded in lived experience rather than clinical training.
Tune in to hear their unique take on why being genuine and relatable often trumps having a formal title, and stick around for Sheri's quirky idea for Matt's billboard campaign.

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