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  • I Wish I Didn't...with Nate Holder

I Wish I Didn't...with Nate Holder

Friday 14th August 2020

Nate Holder chats with Jay Casale about decolonising music education, his new book, and the impact of race and COVID-19 on 'The Lighter Side'.
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Nate Holder: Shaping Music Education for a Diverse Future

But you'll say African drumming, where Africa is a huge continent. It means that when children go out to the world- and that's what I think- they think, oh yeah, African drums, African drums, and you meet a person from Africa who plays drums, and you know that's your immediate thought.
Ever wondered how music education can evolve to be more inclusive and representative? In this episode of 'The Lighter Side with Jay', Jay Casale sits down with Nate Holder, a London-based musician, author, and music education consultant. Nate has been passionately advocating for decolonising music education for the past five years, and his journey is nothing short of inspiring.
From playing the saxophone on international stages to penning insightful books, Nate's career is a testament to the power of representation and practice in music. Nate's latest book, 'Why is my Piano Black and White?', delves into the history and evolution of music education, challenging traditional norms and pushing for a more inclusive approach.
He shares how his own experiences have shaped his views and why he believes it's crucial for children to see themselves reflected in the music they learn and play. The conversation also touches on the intersection of music and race, the impact of COVID-19 on the music industry, and the ongoing influence of the Black Lives Matter movement.
Nate's perspective from across the pond offers a unique look at these pressing issues, making this episode a must-listen for anyone interested in the future of music education. Jay and Nate's chat is both enlightening and engaging, filled with personal anecdotes and broader insights. Whether you're a music educator, a parent, or simply someone who loves music, this episode offers valuable takeaways on how we can all contribute to a more diverse and inclusive musical landscape.