I started by watching the Leah Remini thing, and then I'm in a sober house in 2015 and I see the Scientology thing. It was like, 'God is putting these little snippets of you're in a cult buddy.' I couldn't see it, so it probably took about five years of the Leah Remini and the Scientology stuff, and then I think what it was, was I Googled 'Is AA a cult?' and I found you guys, and it was like, it was the cut, there was nothing back then about AA.