Once you know that it's a charade, you've gotta ask yourself, do I want to play? If you get our books and you read The Freedom Model and then you read The Freedom Model for the Family and you see it for what it is, look at, we're not saying that people don't die from drug use. We're not saying that sometimes families do the very best they can and things fall apart. I mean, a lot of times and, you know, but what we're saying is the reason things fall apart more than they have to is because there is so much wrong information and so many beliefs that now, even people that have never been to treatment, families that have never been involved in treatment, implement these strategies that are so harmful, not just harmful to the individual, the substance user, but they're harmful to the relationship. They're harmful to the family as a whole. And, and so all of these problems can start without anybody ever stepping foot in a meeting or stepping foot in a treatment program because it's, it's so ingrained in our culture.