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  • 151: Is Counting Clean Time Harmful? (Sort Of)

151: Is Counting Clean Time Harmful? (Sort Of)

Sunday 18th September 2022

Billy and Jason debate clean time in recovery, exploring its potential harm and advocating for more personalized approaches in 'Recovery (Sort Of)'.
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Recovery (Sort Of) - The Podcast
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Billy and Jason
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Recovery Reimagined
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The Debate on Clean Time: Is It Truly Beneficial?

I feel like every death that goes on within the community, I see more and more people like. You know what I don't fucking know, but I'm tired of seeing people die and then maybe I don't need to hold to this fucking complete abstinence ideal so strongly that I'm possibly contributing to the reason these people aren't coming back.
Ever wondered if counting clean time is actually helpful or just another hurdle in the journey of recovery? In this eye-opening episode of 'Recovery (Sort Of) - The Podcast', hosts Billy and Jason dive into the controversial topic of clean time in recovery programs. They question whether the term 'clean'—originating from urinalysis results—is more stigmatizing than supportive, implying that those not 'clean' are somehow 'dirty'. This episode challenges listeners to rethink the traditional markers of recovery success.
Billy and Jason explore the effectiveness of clean time as a motivational tool versus its potential to alienate those who follow different recovery paths. Modern research and science have shown that various forms of recovery can be effective, yet those not adhering to the clean time metric often feel marginalized. The hosts share their own experiences with clean time and discuss how it can sometimes serve as a 'Purity Test' within 12-step fellowships. The conversation doesn't stop there.
They also delve into the broader implications of using clean time as a benchmark, including its impact on community support and the risk of excluding alternative recovery methods. This episode is a call to embrace more individualized and non-judgmental approaches to addiction recovery, emphasizing the importance of community and personalized recovery plans.
Whether you're new to recovery or have been on this journey for a while, this episode offers a fresh perspective on what it means to measure success in recovery. Tune in to hear Billy and Jason's candid discussion and join the conversation about rethinking traditional recovery concepts.